Summary
In this podcast episode, Elizabeth Dos Santos shares her journey from academia to a 25-year career in the FBI, focusing on intelligence analysis and counter-terrorism. She discusses the challenges she faced, the importance of communication skills, and her transition to the private sector. Elizabeth emphasizes the role of AI in intelligence, the need for critical thinking, and the significance of structured analytic techniques in training. She also provides valuable advice for aspiring intelligence analysts, highlighting the importance of writing and presentation skills.
 
Takeaways
  • Elizabeth Dos Santos has a rich background in intelligence, having worked for the FBI for nearly 25 years.
  • Her journey into intelligence began unexpectedly through a suggestion from her father.
  • She emphasizes the importance of communication skills in intelligence analysis.
  • Elizabeth highlights the challenges of adapting to new roles and responsibilities in the FBI.
  • She discusses the transition from government to private sector work and the cultural differences.
  • AI presents both opportunities and challenges in the field of intelligence.
  • The importance of structured analytic techniques in training and analysis is emphasized.
  • Elizabeth advises aspiring analysts to focus on writing and presentation skills.
  • She reflects on the significance of understanding the audience when communicating analysis.
  • The conversation touches on the need for transparency in AI and the importance of critical thinking.
 
Resources and references mentioned

The Psychology of Intelligence Book – https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/books-monographs/psychology-of-intelligence-analysis-2/
The Six Thinking Hats Book – https://www.amazon.com/Six-Thinking-Hats-Edward-Bono/dp/0241257530
Pherson Associates – https://pherson.org/
ICD 203 – https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICD/ICD-203.pdf
SANS FOR578 CTI – https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/cyber-threat-intelligence
Is all Intelligence Forward Looking blog post – https://inteltradecraft.com/is-all-intelligence-forward-looking
The Thinking, Fast & Slow Book – https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374275637
Training with Intelligence Tradecraft – https://inteltradecraft.com/sat-certifications
IAFIE – https://www.iafie.org/
The Structured Analytic Techniques (SAT) Book – https://www.amazon.com/Structured-Analytic-Techniques-Intelligence-Analysis/dp/150636893X
The SAT Handbook book – https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Analytic-Tools-Techniques-5th/dp/0979888093/
Admiralty Scale SANS Blog – https://www.sans.org/blog/enhance-your-cyber-threat-intelligence-with-the-admiralty-system/
SANS FOR589 Cybercrime course – https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/cybercrime-intelligence/

 

 
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Elizabeth Dos Santos
01:51 Journey into Intelligence
08:44 Career Development in the FBI
12:40 Challenges and Growth in Intelligence
19:39 Transitioning to the Private Sector
27:52 The Role of AI in Intelligence
53:23 Advice for Aspiring Intelligence Analysts
01:07:29 The Importance of Communication in Intelligence
01:14:19 Structured Analytic Techniques and IAP
01:18:19 Conclusion and Reflections on Intelligence
 
This conversation is a compressed edit of an interview Freddy has conducted as part of his PhD research. The interview happened on May 13th, 2025 in Copenhagen,Denmark.
 

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